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cowman
04-05-2012, 11:52 PM
Anyone have one they know works good? Looking for something simple and reliable that will do better than the OEM intel cooler.

This will be cooling my file server's CPU which is a core i5 760. It's now spending a lot of time with all cores under full load transcoding video.. here's why I want an upgrade so bad...




cowman@ds666:/tmp$ sensors
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage: +1.12 V (min = +0.80 V, max = +1.60 V)
+3.3 Voltage: +3.38 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V)
+5 Voltage: +5.16 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.50 V)
+12 Voltage: +12.21 V (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU FAN Speed: 1962 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CHASSIS1 FAN Speed:2636 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CHASSIS2 FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
POWER FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CPU Temperature: +72.5C (high = +60.0C, crit = +95.0C)
MB Temperature: +36.0C (high = +45.0C, crit = +75.0C)

cowman
04-06-2012, 12:22 AM
This guy has positive reviews...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118003

ssppd14
04-06-2012, 03:17 AM
I had a similar Zalman cooler and those fins collect a TON of dust and are a pain in the butt to clean. Kept the CPU running cool though.

TDSP
04-06-2012, 06:51 AM
I personally am a big fan of the Corsair H series liquid coolers because they are easy to build into a "scavenger" duct if you live somewhere with a summer... That being said, $50-150 for a cooler is steep. At the same time, this in the middle of a handbreak run:
http://geeks-and-gears.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=19&d=1333698681

cowman
04-06-2012, 12:08 PM
I want something I can drop in and not worry about/ check on for 6mo- a year. This is a machine that is never turned off or messed with for the most part.

Jinx
04-06-2012, 04:21 PM
72.5 isn't bad for a quad core. It is well within spec.

cowman
04-06-2012, 05:31 PM
I suppose so... now that I convert it to frenheight it doesn't seem as scary. I used to run Athlon MPs that hot many years ago. Got used to seeing CPU temps around 100F for too long.

TDSP
04-06-2012, 10:01 PM
I want something I can drop in and not worry about/ check on for 6mo- a year. This is a machine that is never turned off or messed with for the most part.

Self contained. They just bolt right up. I've seen 3 fail and they all died from pumps and since Corsair bought out the previous manufacturer, that doesn't happen anymore.

cowman
04-06-2012, 11:01 PM
Quite a drop in temp now that it has been sitting for a little while without doing any real work.


cowman@ds666:~$ sensors
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage: +0.88 V (min = +0.80 V, max = +1.60 V)
+3.3 Voltage: +3.38 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V)
+5 Voltage: +5.18 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.50 V)
+12 Voltage: +12.21 V (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU FAN Speed: 1430 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CHASSIS1 FAN Speed:2636 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CHASSIS2 FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
POWER FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CPU Temperature: +43.5C (high = +60.0C, crit = +95.0C)
MB Temperature:


I dunno, I'm waffling. On one hand it probably won't burn up... on the other I'd really like it to keep cool...

TDSP
04-07-2012, 09:24 PM
Just do it. Even if the specs say it's fine, there seems to be a correlation between "runs hot" and "dies quick".

cowman
04-07-2012, 11:56 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103057 thoughts on that one?

I was looking at some 120mm coolers that sit flat on the motherboard, but those are going to block one of my ram slots... and I was going to populate those while I had the system down anyway.

Jinx
04-08-2012, 02:58 AM
Very good reviews on that cooler. 89% are 4 stars or better. As long as it fits there shouldn't be a problem. What type of thermal compound are you going to use?

cowman
04-08-2012, 03:47 AM
Probably arctic silver, it's what I've used in the past. I see there are some new compounds out there but I don't know a lot about them.

Jinx
04-08-2012, 04:18 AM
Arctic Silver is very good stuff. I've used it a lot in the past as well. If you have some on hand, then I'd say use it again. However, if you need to order some more, I'd recommend getting ZALMAN ZM STG1 Thermal Compound instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118010

As I've stated in the past, (ad nauseum I'm sure) I work at a PC recycling center. At one point someone recycled a box of mixed components including a couple bottles of the Zalman compound. I tried it and used it multiple times since, I'm a firm believer in the stuff. It runs just as cool as the Arctic Silver, but more importantly, it's extremely easy to apply since the bottle is similar to a fingernail polish bottle for a lady (or an emo if you're into that kind of thing). The lid has a brush that allows you to paint a thin layer on the chip. Just be sure to shake the bottle before you apply it.

Remember you'll want a very thin layer of compound between the chip and the cooler. Just enough to fill in the air gap between the two. With Arctic Silver, I'd always apply too much. Even when trying to spread it on with a razor blade. Each time I'd remove the cooler at a later date, the surplus compound had oozed out to the edges of the chip and there was a mess. Also too much compound will insulate the processor and slow heat dissipation. I've had none of these problems with the Zalman stuff.

Just my 2 cents.

cowman
04-08-2012, 04:32 AM
I may have an old tube of arctic silver around...

I used to build, rebuild, rig, modify, etc machines quite often. However, these days I only do something maybe once a year and I keep finding everything has changed on me again.

TDSP
04-08-2012, 04:42 AM
Arctic Silver is very good stuff. I've used it a lot in the past as well. If you have some on hand, then I'd say use it again. However, if you need to order some more, I'd recommend getting ZALMAN ZM STG1 Thermal Compound instead. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118010

As I've stated in the past, (ad nauseum I'm sure) I work at a PC recycling center. At one point someone recycled a box of mixed components including a couple bottles of the Zalman compound. I tried it and used it multiple times since, I'm a firm believer in the stuff. It runs just as cool as the Arctic Silver, but more importantly, it's extremely easy to apply since the bottle is similar to a fingernail polish bottle for a lady (or an emo if you're into that kind of thing). The lid has a brush that allows you to paint a thin layer on the chip. Just be sure to shake the bottle before you apply it.

Remember you'll want a very thin layer of compound between the chip and the cooler. Just enough to fill in the air gap between the two. With Arctic Silver, I'd always apply too much. Even when trying to spread it on with a razor blade. Each time I'd remove the cooler at a later date, the surplus compound had oozed out to the edges of the chip and there was a mess. Also too much compound will insulate the processor and slow heat dissipation. I've had none of these problems with the Zalman stuff.

Just my 2 cents.

I buy syringe Arctic Silver+ compound and dope it with colloidal iridium and it performs significantly better :look:

cowman
04-21-2012, 08:19 PM
I have installed the cooler!

Significant drop in temp at idle.


cowman@ds666:~$ sensors
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage: +0.89 V (min = +0.80 V, max = +1.60 V)
+3.3 Voltage: +3.39 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V)
+5 Voltage: +5.18 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.50 V)
+12 Voltage: +12.26 V (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU FAN Speed: 1776 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CHASSIS1 FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CHASSIS2 FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
POWER FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CPU Temperature: +32.0C (high = +60.0C, crit = +95.0C)
MB Temperature: +27.0C (high = +45.0C, crit = +75.0C)




Here's what we see after a few minutes of multiple instances of handbrake using up 100% of all 4 cores..



cowman@ds666:~$ sensors
atk0110-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
Vcore Voltage: +1.11 V (min = +0.80 V, max = +1.60 V)
+3.3 Voltage: +3.38 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V)
+5 Voltage: +5.18 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +5.50 V)
+12 Voltage: +12.21 V (min = +10.20 V, max = +13.80 V)
CPU FAN Speed: 1776 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CHASSIS1 FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CHASSIS2 FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
POWER FAN Speed: 0 RPM (min = 600 RPM)
CPU Temperature: +47.5C (high = +60.0C, crit = +95.0C)
MB Temperature: +27.0C (high = +45.0C, crit = +75.0C)



So :2up: the cpu is far more chilled than it was before.

Bit of an issue though.. this monster cooler is so tall I can't close the side of the case anymore :facepalm:

Jinx
04-21-2012, 08:34 PM
No side also helps cool the case. It's win, win!

cowman
04-21-2012, 08:40 PM
I dunno, a case with well designed airflow will actually keep the components cooler with the sides installed than off. It depends on the case though..



One really has to see this installed to understand how huge it is....

Jinx
04-21-2012, 08:56 PM
Break out the Dremmel and put some holes in the door. It'll close then. :lulz:

TDSP
04-21-2012, 10:17 PM
Get a manual sheet metal nibbler, results will be better.

http://www.northwares.com/hand-nibbler-sheet-metal-cutting-tool-cut-pc-case-window/

or

http://www.garrettwade.com/manual-sheet-metal-nibbler/p/09T01.01/