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cowman
02-16-2012, 01:22 AM
One day in the future, everyone on this forum boards a cruise ship vacation. Things are going quite well, everyone is drinking and laughing and having fun.. then seemingly out of nowhere, the clear sky turns dark. Within minutes the ship is caught in a strange storm. Lightning unlike anything you've ever seen crackles across the water. After several more minutes of this, the storm fades away as quickly as it began.

The ship's crew is acting nervous and one of us overhears that the GPS isn't working, they can't receive any radio or satellite signals although all the gear appears to be working correctly. After hemming and hawing for two days, without being able to communicate or receive any communication from the outside world, they steer the ship back towards the closest land mass which should be Florida. Unfortunately we rented a budget cruise ship run by Italians and they aren't very good at navigating without the GPS. The ship runs aground somewhere off a coastline. We all manage to get off and take the lifeboats to safety but none of us have time to grab any gear. Besides the clothes on our backs, a couple of us have pocket knives, one guy has a solar powered pocket calculator, and one guy had the good sense to throw some food in one of the life boats. The good news is there's enough food for everyone for at least 6 months, more if we ration. The bad news is what he got was MREs... hope you guys like Chicken ala King cause that's all there is.

The Italians all got in one lifeboat which never made it back to shore. Below decks on the ship is where all the spammers were at the time of the sinking. A fire broke out before the boat went under, they all burned horribly then drowned in salt water.

Our groups scouts around for several miles on the mainland. We find lots of wildlife and vegetation that looks like we might have landed in the general area of Florida but there is no sign of people. No roads, power lines, other boats, aircraft, sounds of human activity, buildings, etc. Just us, the MREs, a couple of shoddy lifeboats, a pocket knife, and a calculator.

It very much looks like human civilization is simply gone and all we've got is what little we took with us and what knowledge we still have.

So, now what do we do?

I leave this open ended, however the one rule I lay down is that it has to be something that could actually happen. No frog prince leading everyone back home or fairy godmothers or aliens or anything. You can do anything that you yourself are able to.

Example: if you know how to take what you have, find local resources, and smelt Iron ore into Iron and make things then you can do that. Be prepared to be called on it if you claim such an ability... also consider man power required... there are only a couple hundred of us. We'll also have to start coming up with food eventually.

Jinx
02-16-2012, 02:19 AM
I would gather a group of like minded individuals and go out and hunt down a pig. Assuming there was evidence of one of course. I saw this in a movie once and I like roasted pig.

ronman
02-16-2012, 03:18 AM
I would start by figuring out who has mastered the dark art of making fire.

The Man
02-16-2012, 04:07 AM
listen to steve rosenthal tell us how we would not be stranded if the washington state ferry boats were here, and how much colder and deeper the waters of washington are, but dont worry he would have a master plan that his science teacher in high school taught him.....

lynchingacers
02-16-2012, 04:14 AM
shelter, fire first then resources like food!

cowman
02-16-2012, 04:21 AM
Right, so what do we build the shelter with. There are probably trees around, you've got manpower...

Tami
02-16-2012, 08:07 PM
I may not have mastered the dark arts, Ron, but I am a smoker who always has a lighter. Once it dries out, we're golden. Or, if necessary, I think I have enough skillz left from my youth to be able to build a fire with some sticks and some tinder if we can find anything dry enough. We would also need to decide what to do about water - a team would need to go look for a fresh water source and we'd need to meet up and decide if using the boat for a water storage device is something we're willing to do if fresh water is a concern.

Tessa
02-17-2012, 12:55 AM
You have a degree minus one chemisty credit in botany here plus a class in tropical ecology, ornithology, and river ecology so I could probably figure out what plants and animals won't kill us if we ate it.

Tessa
02-17-2012, 12:55 AM
or we could just feed it to the Doug and if he lives its safe.

cowman
02-17-2012, 01:00 AM
Ok, cool, Tami figured out fire.


or we could just feed it to the Doug and if he lives its safe.

Yeah I think that's a good plan.

Scarface88
02-17-2012, 01:53 AM
I'd probably start by getting some tree branches and making them into spears so we can kill cute little bunny rabbits. {just make sure we aren't going after a white one that lives in a cave}.

If anyone has a 9 volt battery and some steel wool, we have an alternate source of fire.

cowman
02-17-2012, 01:58 AM
I hate rabbit. Wut about spear fishing?

Scarface88
02-17-2012, 02:35 AM
That would work. Either way we need to kill some animals.

TDSP
02-18-2012, 07:43 AM
Things I remember from reading "How to survive anything" (and have on my handy wallet card):

First thing's first: Fresh fucking water. It's a tropical environment, no shelter we will quickly put together will save us from storms. Shade will help with the sun, as will not working in the middle of the day if it can be avoided. For nights, we can buddy up and a fire would be nice, but we're gonna likely have to spend a few nights in close proximity with people on watch first. The environment will kill us if we do anything stupid, and one of the biggest killers in that sort of environment is dehydration.

Scouts need to look for two things for us ASAP: Natural sources of fresh water and large areas of rocks and non-sandy soil. If we find water, we can disinfect it (at least enough to avoid dysentery) by putting it in a clear plastic soda/water/etc bottle and letting it sit for 6 hours in direct sunlight (clear plastic from MREs or salvaged from the area the ship was in, they float like mo-fos...). If not, the maximum amount of salt water we can intake without causing serious health concerns is 2 lbs a day, assuming we aren't burning water on digestion (aka eating the MREs). If we find soil suitable of making a solar still, we can take plastic sheets from the life rafts/MREs/debris and use them to make varying sizes of solar still (google it). It might not be great tasting, but enough of them could turn a small spring into a sufficient supply or otherwise improve our situation.


I would start by figuring out who has mastered the dark art of making fire.

Me. That was 3/4 of what my brain power was devoted to sophomore year.


I may not have mastered the dark arts, Ron, but I am a smoker who always has a lighter. Once it dries out, we're golden. Or, if necessary, I think I have enough skillz left from my youth to be able to build a fire with some sticks and some tinder if we can find anything dry enough. We would also need to decide what to do about water - a team would need to go look for a fresh water source and we'd need to meet up and decide if using the boat for a water storage device is something we're willing to do if fresh water is a concern.

If your lighter doesn't work or isn't going to last long considering it has to last 200 people... MREs contain chocolate a lot of times. And some of them contain canned goods (assuming no cases of soda or beer were left in the yachts or no swimmers could find aluminium cans as floating debris). It would be relatively simple to reshape the bottom portion of cans into parabolic mirrors and polish them using the chocolate bar as compound. You can also do this with partially dried fecal matter or some clays, but we can give up that small number of calories for this *cough*

To get something easy to light in daylight with a parabolic mirror, seeing as there are likely palms and possibly coconuts, I'd start looking for plants I could strip long fiber from. Some palms break down with relatively small amounts of force into fiber we can hand shred and dry on rocks or the beach into an easy to carry kindling. If we manage to save some MRE packaging or find coconuts, that's even waterproof.....

As to bigger things, that would have to be salvage, at least till we could look into felling brush...


Yeah I think that's a good plan.

:|


I hate rabbit. Wut about spear fishing?

A great idea.... If anyone had the thousands of hours needed to know how. Hell, even getting a rabbit on a spear is hard. I'd personally try for some deadfalls or tiger traps depending on what size of animal trails were evident (assuming we had enough water found to sustain eating something made of protein like that...).

ronman
02-18-2012, 03:05 PM
Two words: Tidal pools.
Once the tide goes out there are generally abundant crustaceans and small fish in the remaining pools, and spearing fish in a small pool is a LOT easier than doing it Kontiki-style.

Curtis
02-19-2012, 04:52 PM
I went through this place called the USAF Survival School one time...

The Man
02-19-2012, 08:54 PM
I went through this place called the USAF Survival School one time...

at Fairchild AFB? goodtimes

Dan
02-20-2012, 01:20 AM
Build an altar to the storm god that killed the spammers using fallen trees from the storm just to show gratitude.
Even though we have no pederasts, start a religion since there is no reason to let the altar go to waste after the gratitude ceremony is over.
Shouldn't be too hard all it takes is a bullshit story and a couple of assholes to believe it.

Tessa
02-20-2012, 02:03 PM
I'll keep the God I already have thank you.

Dan
02-21-2012, 12:31 AM
No problem, we need several religions.
Competition is good.

cowman
02-21-2012, 01:04 AM
I call pope.

TDSP
02-21-2012, 01:58 AM
I call Cthulhu.

cowman
02-21-2012, 02:32 AM
Heretic, you must be purged of your evil... With FIRE !

Curtis
02-21-2012, 01:17 PM
Need to keep in mind the 5 rules of improvising.
1: Determine a need
2: Inventory available resources (Cruise ship parts plays a big role here)
3: Consider alternatives
4: Select alternative
5: Construct, making it safe/durable
6: Make it look cool

TDSP
02-22-2012, 04:52 AM
I'm Cthulhu. Fire doesn't hurt me, I just wait for the stars to be right and eat your face. That's my new survival strategy.

cowman
03-03-2012, 12:00 AM
So did we descend into holy war and kill each other thus ending our civilization?

Matt Booker
03-03-2012, 01:22 AM
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~Matt Booker

Dan
03-05-2012, 01:18 AM
So did we descend into holy war and kill each other thus ending our civilization?

Probably before we ran out of canned food salvaged from the ship.

TDSP
03-05-2012, 07:09 AM
I likely bludgeoned half a dozen people to death so I could use their skulls for bowls...

Dan
04-05-2012, 10:44 PM
Skoal!

TDSP
04-06-2012, 06:54 AM
http://www.oglaf.com/skulls/

Dan
04-06-2012, 11:21 PM
Have we traveled back to the 800s?
With the addition of drinking from skulls the next logical move must be sailing up the Seine to sack Paris.

TDSP
04-07-2012, 09:28 PM
I'm down for that. Though.... I would like to think I can Captain Kirk together a firearm. With a simple musket loader, I could probably get all the French to surrender to me...

Dan
04-07-2012, 10:58 PM
This may be heading in an odd direction but at least we haven't killed Piggy yet...

cowman
04-07-2012, 11:59 PM
I will throw out that my initial idea when starting this thing was to see what we could figure out how to build if we suddenly lost all of our tools and written knowledge base.

Dan
04-08-2012, 02:42 AM
Funny how shit works out, isn't it?

TDSP
04-08-2012, 04:31 AM
I'm really shitty at it but I can flintknapp. Also, if we have metal to smelt, I know how to do everything from smother making charcoal up to making square nails :look:

I know a lot of chemistry and how to make gunpowder from sulfur/charcoal and poo or rich earth...

Jinx
04-08-2012, 04:39 AM
I would most probably be dead at this point.

<---- Government employee after all.